Net Assets: HHS Group For NCAA Tourney Brackets

One of the most prominent annual signs that baseball season is almost at hand is the onset of the NCAA college basketball tournament. If you would like to submit a bracket in a High Heat Stats group, I’ve set one up at Yahoo’s “Tourney Pick ‘Em” website.   Choose “Join a Group” and then enter Group ID# 79192 and password highheatstatspck.

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Insert Name Here
Insert Name Here
11 years ago

Sweet! I’ll be sure to throw my bracket in there.

Keeping with the theme of this site, does anybody have any stats-based bracket ideas?

Ken
Ken
11 years ago
Reply to  birtelcom

How about doing the same thing based on RPI stats? Except for 3 favorite ACC teams, that’s how I based my picks, based on RPI. Which means my picks for virtually the entire first round were the higher-seeded teams. And why my West Regional is now toast thanks to New Mexico (#1 RPI in the country) losing in the first round, and Gonzaga in the second!

Hartvig
Hartvig
11 years ago

My Yahoo account had been inactivated and according to the message I got back it could take up to 24 hours to reactivate. When it does I’ll be back in with my picks but since I’ve only watched a couple of college hoops games all year I’m gonna be picking in the dark. I’m guessing that my chances of winning are about the same as Miami has of going to the World Series. If I DO win however I’m changing my tag line to March Madness Poll Winner Hartvig.

bstar
bstar
11 years ago
Reply to  Hartvig

I think they’re going through some security issues because I was just forced to change my password or I couldn’t have continued.

Yeah, I’ll be pretty much in the dark too on the picks.

mosc
mosc
11 years ago

Don’t sleep on #11 Bucknell in the opening round. Just saying that, not like I went to school there or anything. Clearly that is not the context.

Luis Gomez
Luis Gomez
11 years ago

Go-Go-Gonzaga!

Nah, I don´t know a thing about college hoops, but they are sure a fun thing to watch.

Not trying to kidnapp a thread, but I´m really puzzled about, how it´s almost over and I have yet to read a single comment about the WBC in this site.

bstar
bstar
11 years ago
Reply to  Luis Gomez

Someone has to almost open a thread for us to talk about it, but I’m still a little surprised too. Here’s some thoughts on it: -If you watched any of the US games, you learned to appreciate how much better umps have gotten at calling balls and strikes. Some of the calls were awful and brought back painful memories of Eric Gregg’s strike zone in the deciding game of the ’97 NLCS. Pitch f/x has been a good thing. -If the number of vuvuzelas allowed into the stadium is a number larger than zero, it makes watching the game on… Read more »

Insert Name Here
Insert Name Here
11 years ago
Reply to  bstar

Honestly, maybe I’ve just been too busy with work these past two weeks, but I barely heard a word about the WBC anywhere. I barely knew it was going on!

Tim Pea
Tim Pea
11 years ago

I like Creighton to beat Cincy. Then Duke will beat Creighton. I went to Creighton, once, to visit my girlfriend that was a student. I couldn’t get in because I didn’t have my GED. Anyway, Creighton laying 3. I think Notre Dame will lose in the first round to Iowa State.

PP
PP
11 years ago

I added my bracket. I do them on the fly. In 2 pools so far and 2 online contests. This one is going nowhere, I can tell already: 2 #2s and 2 #1s in final four. 2 from Big East and 2 from the Big Ten. There has to be a 3, 4, or 5 seed in there, and a school from another conference definitely. It never goes logically, though sometimes all the usual suspects do show in the Big Dance.

bstar
bstar
11 years ago
Reply to  birtelcom

I see you and Ed are on Florida to win it all. Good to see some SEC support out there. I had the Gators going to Elite 8 but couldn’t pull the trigger on them vs. Kansas.

Ed
Ed
11 years ago
Reply to  birtelcom

Ha! I relied a lot on Pomeroy as well. I absolutely HATE Florida so picking them was not easy. But there doesn’t seem to be a dominant team so I figured relying on Pomeroy’s stats made as much sense as anything.

bstar
bstar
11 years ago
Reply to  Ed

Ed, my ENTIRE FAMILY hates Duke, mainly because of Christian Laettner’s miracle shot to beat Kentucky in the early ’90s. The rule in the Howard household is to root for A.B.D. (Anybody But Duke). So it wasn’t easy to pick them as my champion, either.

But I think they’re flying under the radar right now. I picked them mainly because I thought few others would.

Ed
Ed
11 years ago
Reply to  Ed

Bstar – All quality people hate Duke! 🙂 You must have a lot of quality people in your family.

bstar
bstar
11 years ago
Reply to  Ed

The Big East WAS killer in the ’80s. But everything was better in the ’80s.

I love the SEC, but without a doubt some of the better games I’ve ever watched were some of those Big East games back in the day, especially when Syracuse was playing in the Carrier Dome. Packing so many people into that stadium just took things to a whole ‘nother level of excitement.

And Georgetown was sort of the Duke of the ’80s, the team everyone loved to hate.

Insert Name Here
Insert Name Here
11 years ago
Reply to  birtelcom

Regardless of what my bracket says (which puts Florida in the National Finals, but losing to Gonzaga), I’ll be openly rooting for Florida (or Duke, but I have Duke losing in the 2nd round) to win it all. I overlapped a year or two of elementary school with Florida’s Erik Murphy, and knew his brother Alex (who now plays for Duke) in middle school. The Murphys’ awesome talent was obvious even back then; our middle school basketball team had a dynastic run centered on the Murphy brothers. Unfortunately, they both went off to a private high school in Massachusetts, but… Read more »

bstar
bstar
11 years ago
Reply to  birtelcom

I have seen some Florida games this year when they’ve played Kentucky (my team) and Tennessee. They looked unstoppable when UK played at Florida, but Kentucky beat them recently at Rupp Arena.

Yes, I pretty much was guessing on everyone else outside the SEC. I haven’t seen a lot of the top teams even once.

Ed
Ed
11 years ago

Only the first day and I’m already reminded why I hate doing this.

1) Picked Wichita State to win, then changed my mind and switched to Pitt. Oops!

2) Picked St. Mary’s to pull off an upset and they lose by two.

3) Picked Davidson to pull off a really big upset. They led the whole game only to lose on a last second shot. Ugh!!!

Insert Name Here
Insert Name Here
11 years ago
Reply to  Ed

Regarding #1: That’s why I go with my gut. Unless a key player gets injured at the last minute, then I go back and change it, but to my knowledge there was none of that this year.

Regarding #2: Memphis is a surprise Sweet 16 if not Elite 8 team this year. You just watch.

Regarding #3: Me too. I absolutely cringed after that ending.

However, why does that mean that bracketology deserves your hate?

PP
PP
11 years ago

Davidson wasn’t a 14th seed. MU was a 4th or 5th seed, not a 3rd.

Insert Name Here
Insert Name Here
11 years ago
Reply to  PP

Nobody mentioned their seedings, but in fact Davidson was a 14th seed nearly upsetting 3rd-seeded Marquette.

PP
PP
11 years ago

Thanks for pointing that out. I went to MU and saw many of their games this year and they are too inconsistent to be a 3rd seed. In fact, they ended up ranked 16th, which should make them a 4 at best. Davidson looked like, and played better than, a 14, while MU looked like, and played like, about a 10, until the last 2 minutes.

Ed
Ed
11 years ago

“However, why does that mean that bracketology deserves your hate?”

Cause I hate to lose and with bracketology I have no control over the outcome.

bstar
bstar
11 years ago
Reply to  Ed

And that would be me wearing the jack(rabbit)-ass ears for picking South Dakota State to beat Michigan because I liked their team nickname.

PP
PP
11 years ago
Reply to  birtelcom

If you click on the Overall Leaders you’ll see 2 people have correctly picked 30 games, one only lost Davidson-MU and SD St-Mich, which means they picked Harvard, Florida Gulf Coast, etc. Unbelievable.

Ed
Ed
11 years ago

My internet’s been down all day so I was pleasantly surprised that I’m now tied for 2nd and am first in “possible points”. More importantly, the 3, 4, and 5 seeds have lost in the West and Gongaza looked quite beatable. Which is all great news for my Ohio State Buckeyes!

Ed
Ed
11 years ago

Joe Pos has an interesting post looking at how #1 seeds perform in the tournament based on how they do in their first round game. Basically #1 seeds that win by 20+ points do much better than #1 seeds that win by 19 or fewer points. And the last team, regardless of seed, to win the tournament after winning their first round game by 7 or fewer points (a la Kansas and Gonzaga this year) was Mighigan back in 1989.

http://joeposnanski.blogspot.com/2013/03/does-first-round-score-really-matter.html

bstar
bstar
11 years ago
Reply to  Ed

Which means Gonzaga squeaking by in the first round WAS telling us something about the true strength of their team. Kansas looked very non-dominant as well the other day. That’s not good for me, as I’ve got them going to the Final Four.

Ed
Ed
11 years ago
Reply to  bstar

As do I Bstar. 🙁

Ed
Ed
11 years ago
Reply to  birtelcom

Well with Wichita State about to take down Gonzaga, I believe that Topper is going to pass me in the standings.

topper009
topper009
11 years ago
Reply to  Ed

Thanks, a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.

Brooklyn Mick
Brooklyn Mick
11 years ago

Look at North Carolina with the early 12-2 lead! I think Topper is connected like some kinda goodfella.

Brooklyn Mick
Brooklyn Mick
11 years ago
Reply to  Brooklyn Mick

The connection ran out.

topper009
topper009
11 years ago
Reply to  Brooklyn Mick

UNC should have been able to hang on, I really cant stand watching these games that don’t involve the big ten, I mean why do these teams even have coaches, they do nothing? All these teams do is grab the rebound and immediately push push push and run into the lane at full speed and throw up some terrible shot. Also Davidson should have beaten Marquette and be in the sweet 16 right now, that was quite the choke job. I see no significant MLB players went to Davidson, Im surprised Bill Buckner didnt go there. And for the record… Read more »

Brooklyn MIck
Brooklyn MIck
11 years ago
Reply to  topper009

Tell me about it. I had Wisconsin going to the final 4, and I still have Marquette going, but they’re going to have a tough time getting past Miami.

Should be some good games with big 10 teams this week, classic matchups really. Michigan-Kansas, Indiana-Syracuse, Michigan St-Duke, and Ohio State-Arizona.

Luis Gomez
Luis Gomez
11 years ago

Ha! It´s official: I don´t know crap about NCAA´s tourney.

Is it just me, or this year´s Spring Training it has been soooo long!

bstar
bstar
11 years ago
Reply to  Luis Gomez

Only seven days ’til Opening Day Game Notes, Luis!

They had to start Spring Training early because of the WBC. That’s why it’s dragggged on so long.

RJ
RJ
11 years ago
Reply to  bstar

@bstar Hahaha, I too can’t wait for the first day of the Game Notes season.

birtelcom
birtelcom
11 years ago
Reply to  Luis Gomez

Opening pitch now less than one week away. Two Texas AL teams. Between them, 92 seasons, no World Series championships. But next Sunday everybody starts fresh, unlike our broken brackets.

bstar
bstar
11 years ago

Ed, what percentile are you right now after getting Syracuse right? You’ve got to be 98 or 99th.

Ed
Ed
11 years ago
Reply to  bstar

Bstar – Close, I’m at 97th. But right now I’m just pissed that my Buckeyes are getting destroyed by Wichita State.

bstar
bstar
11 years ago
Reply to  Ed

Oh so OSU is your actual fave team? I can certainly understand if so. I had a 1-pt win locked up over my sh@thead little brother if OSU won this game, so I’m a little pissed too, although I doubt to the same extent.

Ed
Ed
11 years ago
Reply to  bstar

Yeah, I rarely have the confidence to pick Ohio State to do well in the tournament. But when the bracket came out, it looked to me like an easy road to the Final Four. Then all the top seeds fell making it look like an even easier road.

I wouldn’t mind them losing a close game to Wichita State. But getting blown out by the 9 seed??? Ugh!!! That I don’t get at all.

Doug
Doug
11 years ago
Reply to  birtelcom

I recently read a piece in an airline magazine (of all places) about the perilous state of college basketball – about how flow has largely disappeared from the game, that many players struggle with basic skills, etc. Well, I follow college hoops about as closely as bowling (okay, closer than that, but not by much). But, I figured, hey, final four, the best teams, it can’t be as bad as the writer was making out. So, I tuned in the last 10 minutes of the Michigan/Syracuse game. That writer nailed it. What should have been an exhilirating game with a… Read more »

tag
tag
11 years ago
Reply to  Doug

Doug, I read things like the article you cited and both agree and disagree. I played major college ball (many moons ago) and coach here in Switzerland. I watch the NCAA tourney when the times permit and, like you, am often horrified. It seems as if no one can shoot anymore (except for unheralded freshmen and sixth men). Or make entry passes to big men. Or set good picks, etc. But I wonder if it’s not the incredible athleticism of these guys making such basics that much harder (every single player these days is a lot more athletic than I… Read more »