COG Round 92 Results: Voters in hubbub over Hubbell

This was a peaceful hubbub, though, as “King” Carl Hubbell, near the top of the voting in his first five COG ballot appearances, was a popular selection in earning induction in the 92nd round of COG balloting. In a close two-way race, Hubbell edged Paul Waner, with Roy Campanella placing third and collecting an additional round of guaranteed COG eligibility.

More on Hubbell after the jump.

Last round, COG voters gave the nod to Lefty Grove, the dominant AL pitcher of his time. Thus, it’s only fitting that the choice this time is Hubbell, another southpaw and Grove’s contemporary, and THE dominant NL pitcher of that time. How dominant was Hubbell? Consider these NL superlatives for the 1929-39 period in which Hubbell posted 11 consecutive qualifying seasons with ERA+ never lower than 118.

  • 1st in ERA, ERA+, WHIP, IP, Starts, Complete Games, Shutouts, Strikeouts, Wins and W-L%
  • 2nd in BB/9 and SO/BB
  • 3rd in FIP

Along the way, Hubbell led his league:

  • 6 times in WHIP (led majors 4 times)
  • 5 times in SO/BB ratio (led majors 5 times)
  • 3 times in Wins, ERA, ERA+ and H/9 ratio

For all of the majors over that 11-year period, Hubbell recorded 4 of the top 10 seasons for WHIP (the top 4 scores of the period) and for ERA+ and SO/BB ratio, and 3 of the top 10 seasons for ERA.

Hubbell was the first live ball era pitcher with four consecutive (1933-36) 300 IP seasons (he is still the only pitcher to do that while also finishing 5 or more games in relief in each of those seasons). Those four seasons and the one before (age 29-33) were Hubbell’s peak during which he posted a sparkling 2.40 ERA and 154 ERA+, both tops in the majors. How good was that? The majors’ next best ERA for those seasons was 2.80 by Lon Warneke with Hubbell’s Giant teammate Hal Schumacher the only other hurler under 3.00. Hubbell’s WHIP was also best a wide margin, .135 better (1.215 W+H per 9 IP better)  than Warneke, while his SO/BB was 0.36 better than fireballer Dizzy Dean. That peak places Hubbell among the best live ball era pitchers aged 29-33. His 2.40 ERA is second only to Bob Gibson‘s 2.29, and his 111 wins trails only Grove. In addition, for that age range, Hubbell ranks top 5 since 1920 in ERA+, IP, CG, WHIP and BB/9.

Hubbell also shone in the post-season, with a stellar 1.79 ERA in 6 World Series starts, the first three all complete game wins allowing one earned run or less, a streak surpassed only by Christy Mathewson‘s run of four such games. Included was an 11-inning 2-1 win in game 4 of the 1933 series, the longest WS start by an NL pitcher allowing only one run (it was unearned). That was part of a run of 22 consecutive World Series innings without an earned run allowed, still the longest stretch to begin a live ball era World Series career by an NL starting pitcher (Madison Bumgarner is next on the list with 21 consecutive shutout innings before the Royals scored in the 7th inning of last season’s WS opener).

Quiz: Hubbell was the first NL pitcher to go undefeated in 4 WS complete games, a record he still holds with Lew Burdette and Sandy Koufax. Before Hubbell, which three NL pitchers had gone undefeated in 3 WS complete games?

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e pluribus munu
e pluribus munu
8 years ago

Deacon Phillippe, Matty, Babe Adams?

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
8 years ago
Reply to  Doug

It was two other guys with “ll” in their surnames, Orval Overall and Bill Hallahan.

Doug
Doug
8 years ago

Those are all of them.

mosc
mosc
8 years ago

I was surprised Campanella was the favored son who pushed for the extra round. He recently had to loose his extra round. I think it’s a big psychological thing to be off the bubble in these increasingly frequent long-term holdovers as strongest candidate rounds. I’d be quite happy if he squeezed out the next one over Waner.

Dr. Doom
Dr. Doom
8 years ago

Here’s an the latest update: Craig Biggio – 763 Eddie Murray – 731 Roberto Alomar – 725 John Smoltz – 658 Kenny Lofton – 608 Ryne Sandberg – 607 *Harmon Killebrew – 526 Edgar Martinez – 507 Lou Whitaker – 493 *Kevin Brown – 389 Whitey Ford – 382 Bobby Grich – 376 Sandy Koufax – 375 Tony Gwynn – 346 Willie McCovey – 336 *Roy Campanella – 313 *Minnie Minoso – 299 *Dennis Eckersley – 287 *Dave Winfield – 280 Juan Marichal – 268 Tom Glavine – 262 Alan Trammell – 239 Mike Mussina – 233 Curt Schilling –… Read more »

Hartvig
Hartvig
8 years ago
Reply to  Dr. Doom

With 20 plus rounds to go it’s not out of the question that Brown could eventually overtake Smoltz altho I wouldn’t bet on it. I’m fairly certain that he’ll pass Whitaker and Martinez and could well end up in Sandberg/Lofton territory.

MikeD
MikeD
8 years ago

If some pitcher today wanted to learn the screwball, is there anyone alive who could actually teach it?

Hartvig
Hartvig
8 years ago
Reply to  MikeD

I’m sure Fernando Valenzuela probably could.

David P
David P
8 years ago
Reply to  Hartvig

Mike D – There’s one current major leaguer – Hector Santiago – who throws a screwball.

BTW, here’s an interesting article on the decline of the screwball:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/13/magazine/the-mystery-of-the-vanishing-screwball.html?_r=0

mosc
mosc
8 years ago
Reply to  MikeD

I’m not so sure Stephen Strasburg doesn’t already THROW it. That changeup moves SOO much.

Look at the grip:
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That’s a pretty low pinky and it’s knuckle sits along the back seam there. When he throws it the circle comes down and the pinky holds on spinning screwball with great ferocity. It’s not a conventional screwball grip, if there were such a thing, and I certainly understand calling it a circle change but his wrist kicks in at the end more than normal (or human):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-bsw22aA1s

Nobody gets this kind of lateral movement out of a changeup:
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Dr. Doom
Dr. Doom
8 years ago
Reply to  MikeD

I throw one. Not like I’m a Major Leaguer or anything… but it’s really not that hard of a pitch. Mine breaks better and more frequently than my curve. I’ve always liked it, and I’m sure ML pitchers COULD learn. The thing is, there’s no incentive to, since the motion of the ball post-throw is basically the same as a cut fastball, and the cutter puts basically no strain on your arm. (That being said, I think the cutter is HARDER to throw than a screwball, but then I’M not a big league pitcher.)

mosc
mosc
8 years ago
Reply to  Dr. Doom

Cut fastball breaks in a slider like direction. Screwballs go armside like a 2 seamer or circle change except with break. The cutter is to the slider as the two seamer is to the screwball.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
8 years ago

From Hubbell’s SABR bio:
Years of throwing his screwball left him with a deformed left hand with the palm facing out instead of in against his body.

T-Bone
T-Bone
8 years ago

I seem to recall the same thing happened to Jim Brewer, but I can’t find where I read/saw/heard that.