Quiz – Pitching Pairs

Below are matched pairs of pitchers. What feat connects each of these pairs of pitchers?

Congratulations to Cubbies and Ed! They identified that, since 1922, these are the only pairs of pitchers who, in the same season, recorded fewer strikeouts than runs allowed, with a minimum of 125 strikeouts. Here are those seasons, and the pitchers’ stat lines.

37 thoughts on “Quiz – Pitching Pairs

  1. 1
    Josh says:

    They were the only pairs to lose every game for their team in a postseason series?

    • 2
      Doug says:

      Not what I was looking for.

      If it’s true, please provide the details. 🙂

      • 3
        Josh says:

        It looked like each pair were teammates at one point, so I started with Wells/Wakefield. Didnt check the others…I was taking a wild stab.

  2. 4
    bstar says:

    A comment and a question, Doug. First: Isn’t it amazing how many of these quizzes invoke the name of Bobo Newsom? The man is/was everywhere!

    Question: Are these feats related to a single-season stat or a single-game stat?

  3. 8
    John B says:

    Man, this is a stumper.

    I’m focuses in on W/L and ERA…seeing a lot of big win and big loss totals from all pitchers. That’s about it though, nothing sweeping.

  4. 10
    vivaeljason says:

    Question: Was this something that happened when the two pitchers faced each other or was it just something that happened to both in the same season (or even in different seasons)?

  5. 15
    Tristram12 says:

    Really difficult. Has to have something to with volume/innings. LaMaster only pitched two years and that’s really all has is volume. From the list there is a lot of black ink for IP, losses, hbp… Not sure where to go next.

    • 16
      Doug says:

      Yes, Tristram, LeMaster is the key. Something unusual about his one qualifying season.

      Hint: it involves the relationship between two of the counting stats on his season stat line.

  6. 17
    John Nacca says:

    Is it related to games started?

  7. 18
    Ed says:

    Hmmm….In 1937 Passeau and LaMaster both pitcher in 50 games and both struck out 135 batters. Hardly seems particularly interesting/unique.

  8. 19
    cubbies says:

    more runs given up than strikeouts in a season?

    • 22

      That looks like it.

      • 23
        John Nacca says:

        If it is it, and it sure looks like it, THAT was a darned hard quiz!

        • 24
          John Nacca says:

          Gotta be, qualifying pitchers who gave up more total runs then K’s, at least 100 of both

          • 26
            Ed says:

            Plus they were teammates. That’s the other part of the puzzle.

          • 27
            cubbies says:

            some of them were teamates by coincidence, but not all of them.

          • 28
            Ed says:

            You’re right. Which means we haven’t found the answer or there’s a problem with the quiz. Check out Vern Kennedy and George Caster. In 1937 they both meet the criteria of “qualifying pitchers who gave up more total runs then K’s, at least 100 of both”. And Caster and Passeau both did it in ’38.

  9. 20
    cubbies says:

    lemaster and passeau in 37
    stieb and mahler in 86
    wood and coleman in 75
    wells and wakefield in 96
    viola and smithson in 85
    torrez and blue in 79
    pearson and newsom in 34
    walberg and root in 27

    hey…i think im onto something…

  10. 21
    cubbies says:

    oh, and im pretty sure they all had over 100 in both categories too, if it matters. i might be wrong about that part though, i just closed all of the tabs and am too lazy to recheck.

  11. 25
    Mort says:

    Pitch more than 200 innings while giving up more hits than innings?

  12. 29
    Doug says:

    Cubbies (#19 and #20) has it, except for the the threshold. John Nacca’s threshold (#24) is not right.

    Look again at the totals for the seasons in #20 – that will tell you the threshold.

  13. 30
    Ray Sanchez says:

    Does it has anything to do with earned runs? Because they all gave up more runs than strikeouts but less earned runs than strikeouts

  14. 35
    richard chester says:

    Doug: While we’re at it were Wilbur Cooper, Bob Shawkey and Urban Shocker the pitchers from 1921?

  15. 36
    Doug says:

    That,s right, Richard. All of the seasons since 1901 are identified in the link I added to the post. This was more common in the dead ball era.

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