Crowdsourcing Cys Young

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Yesterday, we began a conversation about this year’s MVPs. The Cy Young Award races pack more drama this year, particularly in the NL, where the top four candidates had historic years and three of them are practically indistinguishable in their excellence. Let’s vote for the best pitchers now.

List your top five candidates for Cy Young in either league or both in the comments, with or without commentary. I’ll compile on Friday, 11/13, using the same 7-4-3-2-1 scoring system MLB uses. Stats after the jump. All are sortable. Please don’t take the default sort as an endorsement.

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Grzegorz

8 years ago

AL
Price
Keuchel
Sale
Archer
Kluber

NL
Arrieta
Kershaw
Greinke
Scherzer
Cole

no statistician but

8 years ago

The CY is less about being valuable in a larger sense than is the MVP, but looking at it from that perspective rather than stats, David Price seems a clear winner in the AL. When he left Detroit the Tigers were struggling and they subsequently went into the tank despite the return of Cabrera from the DL. When he arrived in Toronto the Jays were 2 games over .500, and his 9-1 record subsequently was the centerpiece of their runaway finish. Independent of that, of course, his stats put him on top. In the NL, using similar reasoning, it’s difficult… Read more »

Brent

8 years ago

AL: Keuchel, Price, Sale, Archer, Gray
NL: Greinke, Arrieta, Kershaw, Scherzer, Bumgarner

With regard to the Cy Young, I never understood the tendency to act like the second half of the season’s games matter more than the first half. Greinke was the best for the WHOLE season, Arrieta was better for the last 10 weeks or so.

Dr. Doom

8 years ago

Not much time to comment right now, but here’s my ballot:

AL
1. Dallas Keuchel
2. David Price
3. Corey Kluber
4. Sonny Gray
5. Chris Archer

NL
1. Jake Arrieta
2. Clayton Kershaw
3. Zack Greinke
4. Max Scherzer
5. Madison Bumgarner

John

8 years ago

AL:

1. Price (hands down)
2. Sale
3. Archer
4. Kubler
5. Kuechler

1. Arieta
2t. Kershaw
2t. Greike
4t. Bumgarner
4t. Scherzer

Two ties in the NL, for 2nd and for 4th. Without Sale, the White Sox might’ve finished in Louisville. Even so, not better than Price

Paul E

8 years ago

I believe the “real” Cy Young award offers three choices on the ballot? But, here goes:
Greinke
Arrieta
Kershaw
Bumgarner
Lackey

Keuchel
Price
Gray
Sale
Hernandez

In the AL, I considered Colby Lewis (17-9 4.66) since he did such a great job of pitching to the score 🙁

e pluribus munu

8 years ago

If I were a real voter, I’d have several more steps to take before making a judgment, because it’s a really close call in both races, as I see it. What I’ve taken into account, apart from ERA, ERA+, FIP, and WAR (using the rWAR and fWAR average), are the following factors: Games of 8.0+ IP, Games of <5.0 IP (excepting Kershaw's final start, where he was pulled despite being in top form), Game Scores of 80+, Run average (counting unearned runs), and, for those on contenders, record from July 1 on (I'm not of Brent's mind on this –… Read more »

Dalton Mack

8 years ago

AL:
Keuchel
Price
Gray
Archer
W. Davis

NL:
Greinke
Arrieta
Kershaw
Scherzer
deGrom

David P

8 years ago

NL:

Grienke
Arrieta
Kershaw
Scherzer
Lackey

AL:

Keuchel
Price
Gray
Felix H.
Archer

no statistician but

8 years ago

AL: Price Sale Keuchel Dellin Betances Wade Davis NL: Arrieta Kershaw Grienke Scherzer deGrom My recognition of Betances and Davis comes from a desire to vote for the most valuable pitchers. Without Betances, the Yankees would not have come close to making the playoffs. He appeared in 58 of the teams 87 wins, had 6 Wins, 28 Holds and 9 Saves, didn’t allow an earned run in the first two months of the season while the team was hanging on to first place in a division that seemed to be going nowhere, etc. Davis was the best pitcher on the… Read more »

e pluribus munu

8 years ago

Reply to no statistician but

nsb, While I wouldn’t rate either reliever above the high WAR starters, you raise really interesting points. With regard to Davis, I think we’d need to analyze game situations to see how his amazing ERA in under 70 innings converts to value – in at least 20 of his games, he entered in the 8th or 9th with a lead of three runs or greater, and he never threw more than an inning. The Royals were a very strong pitching team, and Davis’s exceptional quality in his niche added to that, but was not a critical piece. If we’re judging… Read more »