The High Heat Stats @ootpbaseball League

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My final stats in this fictional Out of the Park Baseball test. Flashes of brilliance, but otherwise… meh.

I never got into fantasy baseball.

Over the years, I’ve had a different drug—baseball simulation. Basically, sim baseball lets you run an alternate baseball universe on your computer. There can be other human owners involved or you can play by yourself.

I’ve used Out of the Park Baseball (OOTP) since version 2. I started a league back in 2001. A few years ago, we upgraded to OOTP 6. The most recent version is OOTP 14, so we’re way behind.

I’ve started playing with OOTP 14 lately and boy does it have a lot of new features. Rather than set up a league all by myself, I figured I’d involve the High Heat Stats authorship and readership as I got used to the game.

Here’s what I’m going to do:

  • I’m going to create a new league beginning with 2013.
  • I’m going to allow you, the HHS readers, to be a player in the new league.
  • You can pick your name, position, and handedness. That’s it. Everything else is random.
  • I’ll create a new prospect to your specifications. And I’ll make the prospect good. But that doesn’t mean you’ll go on to be a star. I probably won’t use to highest level because an influx of that many elite prospects will just throw everything out of whack.
  • Every once in a while (maybe once per week), I’ll sim a season. I’ll let you know how each player did and post the results.
  • Let’s see who has the best career!

I ran a little test just to make sure this would work. I took the six-person High Heat Stats podcast crew and assigned their name to a random player. I made each a “Legend” level prospect, but a raw one (completely undeveloped). I then fast-forwarded ten seasons to see what happened.

The results were interesting—and varied. Here are the decade summaries for each of us, sorted from lowest WAR to highest.

Adam, Pitcher: 1.4 WAR (retired)

A sixth round pick in the inaugural draft (and ranked the #20 prospect in the league), I started my pro career at AA but stalled in AAA as a starter. Converted to the bullpen, I quickly was called up in 2015 at age 23. My best seasons came in 2016 and 2017, yet I only totaled 1.7 WAR. I got my chance to close in 2018 and turned in a replacement level performance (despite 29 saves). I was traded and then non-tendered the next year. After signing a minor league deal with a new franchise in May of 2020, I was terrible in 21 games. For some reason, I was brought back for 2021, but spent most of the season in the minors. I was not offered a contract. I looked for work for a year before finally hanging them up. Despite the early retirement, I was never injured during my career.

Totals: 335 G (379 IP), 250 K/169 BB/35 HR, 1.37 WHIP, 21-22, 34 SV, 3.61 ERA, 130 ERA+, 1.4 WAR.

Bryan, Pitcher: 2.4 WAR (active, just signed 1 year, $1.9 million contract)

Bryan is the only one of us who was ever named the #1 prospect in the land (a year after he was picked in the 12th round, 336th overall). That was despite getting roughed up for a 6.94 ERA in A ball. He fared much better in AA for his first nine starts—until he partially tore his labrum. He was still the #3 prospect in 2015 but struggled before missing time with radial nerve compression. In 2016, now the #45 prospect in the league, he got the call and posted 0.6 WAR in 28 big league appearances (3 starts). He stayed in the rotation all year in 2017, going 13-7 with a 3.48 ERA in 168 innings (1.5 WAR). In 2018, he missed most of the season with bone chips, but was solid upon his return. In 2019, he was terrible and started the transition to the pen. He won a AAA championship out of the pen in 2020. He continues to be shuttled between the majors and AAA.

Career totals: 133 games (51 GS, 370 IP), 256 K/263 BB/18 HR, 1.61 WHIP, 21-16, 1 SV, 101 ERA+, 2.4 WAR

Andy, Pitcher: 7.0 WAR (active, free agent)

Andy wasn’t drafted until the 25th round, but he was named the #10 prospect in the league. After six starts in A ball, he became a reliever in AA. Despite struggling, he was named the #3 prospect in baseball for 2014. He notched 30 saves in 2014 in AA—but at only age 19. He was rewarded with a move back to the rotation in AAA the following season. He tore his labrum and made just sixteen starts. He came back the following year and bounced between AAA and the majors from 2016 to 2018. In 2019, he finally pitched 190 big league innings and was worth 2.9 WAR. After that, he posted numbers below league average in the rotation before being traded in 2021. He missed most of 2022 with a sore shoulder and was non-tendered.

Totals: 150 games (91 GS, 606 IP), 361 K/202 BB/67 HR, 1.37 WHIP, 26-41, 94 ERA+, 7.0 WAR.

Dan, Shortstop: 23.0 WAR (active, recently traded, making $5.3 million in final year of contract)

I thought Dan would have been the best of the group, drafted in the fifth round (164th). He was named the #5 prospect and went right to AAA. He earned a call-up that September (at age 20) and even earned 0.2 WAR. Over the next five seasons, he was a star with seasons of 1.2, 5.2, 1.7, 6.0, and 6.8 WAR. He won a championship in 2015 and hit 35 homers three times while driving in 100 twice. He was an All Star in 2017 and 2018. He was named the Outstanding Hitter in the league (the equivalent of MVP) in 2018. In 2019, it came to a screeching halt as he suffered torn ankle ligaments and played just 53 games. He played in 140 games in 2020 but was below replacement level. He split 2021 between two clubs and rebounded with 33 HR and 101 RBI (despite just 1.4 WAR) but slumped to -0.9 WAR in 2022 (again split between two clubs). He’s entering the final year of a three year deal that paid him $13.7 million (it was signed a year after his injury).

Totals: .270/.324/.472/.796 OPS, 121 OPS+, 1190 hits, 217 HR, 711 RBI, 21 SB, +3.7 ZR, 23.0 WAR. .309/.344/.623 in 45 postseason games.

(I also see that Dan was suspended for two games for arguing a call in 2018. If you’ve ever met Dan, that’s downright hilarious.)

Ashley, Center Field: 38 WAR (active, just signed 5 year, $84 million contract)

Ashley was picked in the 13th round (#1032nd overall) and was a rookie league All Star (with a .973 OPS) that same year. She started her pro career ranked as the #13 prospect in the game. She won a championship in A ball the next year. In 2015, she moved up to AA and hit .381/.461/.534 before a brief three-game callup to AAA. She then moved right to the majors at age 20 and posted an 82 OPS+ and 0.6 WAR. The next year, at 21, she was a 4-win player and a Gold Glover in center. She was an All Star in 2017, 2018, and 2020 and is on a string of seasons with 6.2, 6.3, 6.4, 5.8, 4.3, and 4.4 WAR. She won a championship in 2018 and has three 30-homer seasons (and two more at 25) while driving in 100 three times. She has hit .289 so far with an OPS+ of 136. She rates as a downright dominant center fielder, with +93 runs in 942 games. She recently signed a 5-year deal that will pay her $84 million.

Totals: .289/.348/.506/.854 OPS, 136 OPS+, 1072 hits, 185 HR, 650 RBI, 120 SB, +87.4 ZR, 38.0 WAR. .357/.446/.886 in 26 postseason games.

Dalton, Second Base: 42.5 WAR (active, just signed 4 year, $67.2 million contract)

Dalton, like with the podcast trivia challenges, is charmed. He was the highest pick, taken in the 3rd round (80th overall), and ranked the #3 prospect. He skipped the minors and went right to the majors as a 22-year old. He was hitting just .219/.308/.412, but his defense brought him to 2.1 WAR. His season was cut short by injury after 116 games. He returned for the playoffs as his team won the championship. He has basically been Chase Utley, as he is injury prone, but incredibly productive. He’s basically a 15-25 homer, 5-10 defensive run player every year. It adds up. He was an all star in 2016, 2018, and 2020 and won another title in 2019. He also won the Gold Glove that year. 2019 was also his first year with a new club, having signed a 4-year deal worth $77.6 million. That contract just ended and he just signed on with another club for 4/$67.2m. He has played in 150 games just three times in ten seasons, but is very productive when healthy.

Totals: .265/.366/.451/.817 OPS, 128 OPS+, 1264 hits, 162 HR, 683 RBI, 162 SB, +64.6 ZR, 42.5 WAR. .312/.421/.569 in 45 postseason games.

Interested in seeing updates about you, the pro ballplayer? In the comments, just leave the first and last name you’d like to use, your preferred position (it’s not my fault if your boss moves you), and how you bat/throw. I’m trying not to read anything into the fact that our three pitchers failed and our three position players succeeded. That said, I know I’m catching.

Anything can happen in this league. You can get hurt and tank. You can improve and be an all-time great. You could even take time off for personal issues (I actually saw one such news story pass by in my test). I wish you luck—we’ll all need it.

So, reply with:

Your Name: (if you don’t want to use your real name, give me a first and last name I can use)
Position:
Bats:
Throws:

There’s a Nickname field. If you use something different from the name you comment with, I’ll put the commenter name here.

I’ll probably limit this to the first 24 commenters (giving us 30 with the podcast crew included). If there’s much more interest, maybe I’ll assign names to other prospects (but limit the number I create to 30). So, let’s have some fun!

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Nick Pain
Guest

Cool idea Adam. I just bought OOTP ’14 last weekend after years of Baseball Mogul.

Nick Pain
Position: First Base
Bats: Right
Throws: Right

Dan McCloskey
Editor

Name: Dan McCloskey
Position: LF
Bats: Right
Throws: Right

Dan Smith
Guest

Since i’m an OOTP player(right now version ootp 10—-simulating the 1979 expos but their record is pretty much the same as the 2013 Nationals)

Name: Dan Smith
Position:3rd baseman
Bats: Right
Throws: Right

🙂

lazyrasmus
Guest

How fun! I want in.

Name: Jeff Stearns
Position: Shortstop (jersey #1, if possible)
Bats: Right
Throws: Right

MJ
Guest

I’ll give this a try (using my little league self as a model):

Your Name: Mark Jay
Position: 1st Base
Bats: Right
Throws: Left

Not too many successful left-handed guys that bat right. This may be a disastrous career.

Dalton Mack
Editor

Hey man, you and I both. Plus Rickey was R/L, so there’s that.

Chris C
Guest

Just saw this after I posted. Me too. I was once one of three guys on my town league softball team that batted right and threw left.

MJ
Guest

Didn’t know Rickey was one of us oddballs! There’s hope! I want to see someone try to be a lefthanded SS or catcher in this thing we’re doing! I’m guessing the person will be converted to the OF or 1B, but it is an experiment I’d like to see.

whipstache
Guest

Name: Ryan Hennesy
Position: CF
Bats: Left
Throws: Right

Nadig
Guest

I considered using my little league self, like MJ did. But my little league self was (oddly enough) identical to his, so I’ll be our first right fielder.

Name: Andrew Nadig
Position: RF
Bats: Left
Throws: Left

RJ
Guest

Sounds like a laugh. Count me in.

Name: RJ Jackson
Position: Shortstop
Bats: Right
Throws: Right

Vincent
Guest

Name: Vincent D’Angelo

Vincent
Guest

Position: Catcher
Bats / Throws: Right

Bill
Guest

Bill Brockman
Third base
Throws right
Hits right

989baseball
Guest

Brandon Robitaille
2B
Bats R
Throws R

wx
Guest

Frank Ticheli
2B
Bats R
Throws R

mosc
Guest

Your Name: Yank Mosc
Position: Pitcher (ZOMG!)
Bats: neither
Throws: right

cubbies
Guest

Jon Harris
3B
bats/throws R

(definitely my little league self, but it will be more accurate if I end up being a horrible player)

ATarwerdi96
Guest

Andrew Tarwerdi
2B
Bats Right
Throws Right

David Horwich
Guest

Name: David Horwich
Position: Pitcher
Bats: L
Throws: L

If I tear my labrum, can I go back to the minors aand try again as a CF?….

Dalton Mack
Editor

Name: Dalton “Carlos Danger” Mack
Position: Pitcher
Number: 4
Bats: R
Throws: L

Most likely in a relief role, with (and not sure if OOTP ’14 allows for this much customization) 4-seam FB, slider, curve and splitter if we REALLY wanna be true to life.

RichW
Guest

Name: Rich Warren

Position: Starting Pitcher
Throws: Left
Bats: Switch

RichW
Guest

Yeah, I want a screwball like my favorite player Mike Cuellar

Chris C
Guest

Awesome.

Your Name: Chris castonguay
Position: CF
Bats: R
Throws: L (Yes, like Rickey Henderson. And I’m fast too! But I’m not the greatest ever.)

Darien
Guest

Hey, I’m all for this.

Name: Darien Sumner
Position: 2B
Bats: L
Throws: L if it’ll let you get away with it, because I’m a stubborn prick. But R if it’ll make you. 🙂

MJ
Guest

Yeah! A lefty playing 2B! This I gotta see!

Luis Gomez
Guest

I´m in

Luis Gomez
Position: Catcher
Bats: Left
Throws: Right

Jim Bouldin
Guest

Simulation? Hell yeah.

Name: Duke Sims
Pos: Closer, pinch runner, relief statistician
Bats: Nope
Throws: L

CursedClevelander
Guest

Name: Steve O
Pos: ROOGY
Bats: Both
Throws: R, obviously

Hartvig
Guest

It looks like the best chance to make the roster would be either as a pitcher or maybe a 5th outfielder. Fortunately back in the day I had a pretty good if wildly inaccurate arm so I could probably do either. Let’s go with:

name: Hal Ensrud
position: pitcher
throws: right
bats: right

Victor Zambrano would probably be a fairly good recent template to build off of even though Mitch “Wild Thing” Williams has a way cooler nickname

Hartvig
Guest

And needless to say, if you could make a right-handed version of Don Mossi out of me I’d be highly honored, even though he would no where near as wild I as was on the ver rare occasions when I did pitch.

Bill
Guest

I peaked as a ten year old third basemen in real life so I’m curious how ill do

Jeff Hill
Guest

name: Jeff Hill
Position: whatever is left is fine…
throws: r
bat: r

Jeff Hill
Guest

Also, my given nickname throughout my life playing Baseball, Football, Soccer, Basketball and a few other things has always been “The Thrill” for what it’s worth.

GrandyMan
Guest

Is this still open?

Name: CJ Miller
Pos: CF
Bats: R
Throws: R

And if this is true to life, I’ll have no power, no defense, poor hitting, but an OBP of about .600…as like, a 27-year-old at Class A. Hopefully it comes out a little better than that.

BryanM
Guest

OK I’ll take a shot at the last position – I was always the last one picked at pick-up games, so it’ll fit right in (throws left , bats? left)

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