Mattingly goes for the kill, with Kershaw on short rest

With his Dodgers on the brink of advancing to the NLCS, manager Don Mattingly named Clayton Kershaw to start game 4. It will be his first-ever start with less than four days’ rest. Kershaw had one relief outing on three days’ rest back in 2008, at the end of his rookie year, allowing three baserunners in one inning, but no runs.

 

Since 2009, his first full year, Kershaw has 90 starts on four days’ rest and 71 starts with five or more days’ rest. Both sets show a 2.44 ERA and 1.05 WHIP.

I expect to add more to this post, but in the meantime, let’s get the argument started. Some pundits like this move. I hate it. What do you think?

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After a high-pitch game

Kershaw threw 124 pitches in game 1, his 3rd-highest total ever, which seems a big load to shake off on short rest. On the other hand, he had only one stressful inning, and that came with a 5-0 lead. But let’s look at his history in terms of coming back from his heavier pitch counts.

Overall, Kershaw’s pitch load is lower than most aces. He was kept on a short leash in his first two seasons, and since then he’s been so successful (leading the NL in WHIP the last three years) that he rarely throws 115 or more in a game. Since 2010, Kershaw’s 131 starts are just 3 off the lead, and his 901 IP ranks 4th — but his 24 games with 115+ pitches ranks 10th.

I figured the numbers for what Kershaw did in his next start, (a) after throwing 115+ pitches (24 games), and (b) after throwing 104-114 pitches (59 games). In each case, I omitted all starts on 7 days’ rest or more.

  • After 105-114 pitches: 2.72 ERA … 2.88 RA/9 … 1.09 WHIP … 25.1% SO rate … 64 batters per HR … .317 SLG
  • After 115-132 pitches: 3.86 ERA … 4.14 RA/9 … 1.11 WHIP … 24.5% SO rate … 40 batters per HR … .360 SLG

The WHIP and SO% are so close that it’s tempting to write off the big jump in runs as a sample-size blip, since the high-pitch group holds just 24 games. And that could be the truth — but note the HR and slugging rates. In the first group, 31% of his hits go for extra bases, but that’s up to 36% in the high-pitch group. Note that all of the high-pitch followers came in his “mature period,” since 2010, when he’s topped 200 IP and 200 Ks each year.

For completeness, I’ll repeat the numbers, adding a line for his 87 starts that followed a start of 104 pitches or less:

  • After  <= 104 pitches:  2.26 ERA … 2.47 RA/9 … 1.09 WHIP … 25.7% SO rate … 82 batters per HR … .294 SLG
  • After 105-114 pitches: 2.72 ERA … 2.88 RA/9 … 1.09 WHIP … 25.1% SO rate … 64 batters per HR … .317 SLG
  • After 115-132 pitches: 3.86 ERA … 4.14 RA/9 … 1.11 WHIP … 24.5% SO rate … 40 batters per HR … .360 SLG

The extra-base hits rate progressed from 27% to 31% to 36%. For each group of starts, the average days’ rest was between 4.4 and 4.5.

This study is quick and dirty, but it tends to suggest that Kershaw is more vulnerable to the long ball after a high-pitch start, even with normal rest. And what does the Braves’ lineup do best?

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James Smyth
10 years ago

I’m with you on this, he’s on short rest after 126 pitches (2nd-highest total in career). I could see it if you’re desperate down 2-1, but I think it’s a little too much of a risk with a series lead. You’ll probably batter Freddy Garcia tonight anyway, but have him waiting in the wings for Game 5 (or Game 1 of the NLCS).

James Smyth
10 years ago
Reply to  James Smyth

**124 pitches (3rd-highest total in his career)

mosc
mosc
10 years ago
Reply to  James Smyth

I agree with this. You want to win a world series, not an a division series. Kershaw is a bullet you can save for game 5 and hope you don’t have to use. Either way, he’ll be pitching a more important game than game 4 of the division series. Garcia’s splitter is very good but he’s shown sporatic control with it and his supporting pitches are nothing to lean on. That said, when that pitch is going paired with a good control fastball, he is a challenging pitcher from either side of the plate. He’s still capable of good outings… Read more »

RJ
RJ
10 years ago

I was going to try to assume the opposing position, but I can’t see anything in particular in his splits or game logs to support him starting today. Is this not a largely psychological move? I don’t want to face Clayton Kershaw. I really don’t want to face him at home. I definitely don’t want to face him having previously thought it would be Ricky Nolasco.

Jim Bouldin
Jim Bouldin
10 years ago

Interesting move. It tells me that he’s not sure about Nolasco’s ability to get it done tonight, which pushes Kershaw back two more days, thereby having a greater impact on the next series. Since they still have Greinke for a game 5, I can see it.

I think I like it overall, and that it’s curtains for the Braves.

bstar
10 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

I missed that AB, too. Did Upton square to bunt on the first two pitches?

Jim Bouldin
Jim Bouldin
10 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Uehara in in the bottom of the ninth in a tie game, which I can understand. All kinds of interesting stuff going on today.

AND JUST AS I’M ABOUT TO POST, LOBATON HITS A WALK-OFF!!!

Yippeeyappee
Yippeeyappee
10 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Don’t remind me about that series.
On second thought, just don’t remind me of the whole season.

RJ
RJ
10 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

All hail Joe Maddon!

Jim Bouldin
Jim Bouldin
10 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Was thinking about that very issue John. I concluded I guess, that you really have to keep the guy on 2nd from scoring in that situation, therefore go by the book. Fortunately it turned out well in the end for the Rays.

Anybody notice the look on those Sox fans out in the CF bleachers whose heads Lobaton hit the ball over? Man did they look bummed!!

pcg
pcg
10 years ago

I know it’s after the fact, but I disliked the move to Kershaw. You want him, not Greinke or anyone else, on the mound in Atlanta for Game 5 (just in case). Else you want Kershaw on the mound for Game 1 of the NLCS. And what kind of message does it send to Nolasco that he can’t be trusted to give you six innings at home? It will be interesting to see what Nolasco does if he gets a chance to start… I get the “close it out” argument but I think it’s an emotional, rather than a rational,… Read more »

Doug
Editor
10 years ago

You have to feel for the Braves, watching their guys get mowed down by Jansen in the 9th while the Dodgers were spared the same fate when Kimbrel was left in the pen. Easy to say it after the fact but when Puig got aboard, to me you’ve got to go to your best pitcher. Hey, the Yankees went for the 4+ out save over and over again in the post-season (and nearly always successfully) for most of Mariano’s career. You’d think Gonzalez might have noticed. Bottom line: you can’t manage a post-season game (much less an elimination game) the… Read more »

Luis Gomez
Luis Gomez
10 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Also, he deserved the butt-kicking they got on game 3, for keeping Teheran until the 3rd inning and Wood in the 4th. The Braves tied the game in the top half of third, but Gonzalez let Teheran start the 4th? I think that´s were they let the momentum shift to the Dodgers side.

Luis Gomez
Luis Gomez
10 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Correction. Gonzalez let Julio Teheran start the bottom of the third.

Doug
Editor
10 years ago

Gutsy performance tonight by Freddy Garcia. It was his 10th consecutive post-season start of 5+ innings allowing no more than 4 runs (Garcia allowed 2 runs or less in 6 of those 10 games), tying him with Derek Lowe, John Smoltz and Dave Stewart for the 5th longest post-season streak. Only Tom Glavine and Orel Hershiser (13 each), Andy Pettitte (12) and Steve Carlton (11) are ahead of him.

Daniel Longmire
Daniel Longmire
10 years ago

Four total hits in the Cards-Pirates game…one of the lowest post-season totals ever? Or am I way off on this one?

Daniel Longmire
Daniel Longmire
10 years ago

Also, at two hours and 36 minutes, that was downright speedy for a modern playoff game, considering there were five pitching changes, seven walks and four pinch-hitters/pinch-runners (all by Pittsburgh).

Steven
Steven
10 years ago

It took the Rays and Red Sox two hours just to get from the fourth through the eighth inning.

birtelcom
Editor
10 years ago

Absolutely right, Daniel, that it’s one of the lowest post-season totals ever. Ties just one other game for the lowest two-team hit total in a post-season game. October 18, 2004, the Astros and Cards totaled four hits in an NLCS game that Jeff Kent won for Houston with a walk-off three-run homer off Jason Isringhausen, breaking a scoreless tie. It was the third win in a row for Houston after they had fallen behind the Cards 0-2 in the series — but St. Louis went on to win the final two games. And there have been only two 5-hit games… Read more »

birtelcom
Editor
10 years ago

This was also the first game of 2013, regular or post-season, with four or fewer total hits. The last game with so few total hits was 10/2/2012, Tampa vs. Baltimore, in James Shields’ amazing, though losing, final start as a Ray.

Daniel Longmire
Daniel Longmire
10 years ago
Reply to  birtelcom

Tremendous stuff, birtelcom. Thanks for the research.

JasonZ
10 years ago

Even without the Yankees, the AL East’s annual gift of 4-hour intra-division playoff baseball survives.

Doug
Editor
10 years ago
Reply to  JasonZ

Game 3 of the Dodgers/Braves series also eclipsed 4 hours. Just barely at 4:01.

birtelcom
Editor
10 years ago

Two homers in a game by a leadoff hitter, for an NL team in the post-season:
Carl Crawford last night
Marquis Grissom, 1995 NLDS
Lenny Dykstra, 1993 World Series
Davey Lopes, 1978 World Series

Luis Gomez
Luis Gomez
10 years ago
Reply to  birtelcom

C´mon man. That should have been a helluva trivia. (Of course, I did not knew the answer) 🙂

Doug
Editor
10 years ago
Reply to  birtelcom

TBS reported on their telecast that Crawford is the first Dodger to homer in the first two PA of any post-season game.

JasonZ
10 years ago

57 years ago today there was a postseason game with only five base hits.

I think this one may ring a bell…

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYA/NYA195610080.shtml

birtelcom
Editor
10 years ago
Reply to  JasonZ

Ah, yes. Thanks. I did a Play Index search that looked for all games in which teams had 4 or fewer hits, ordered by the number of teams in the game that achieved that feat. Such a search would not of course produce the Larsen game. My bad.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
10 years ago
Reply to  birtelcom

What about Halladay’s no-hitter in 2010. There were 5 hits total.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PHI/PHI201010060.shtml

birtelcom
Editor
10 years ago

Yep, that one too. I clearly should have gone back and re-run the PI search before I went ahead and added the 5-hit comment to the earlier 4-hit comment. Or at least I should have gone back and looked at the post-season no-hitters to check the hit totals for the other team. It’s not like there’s a lot of them to check!

JasonZ
10 years ago

Jayson Stark just said that Michael Wacha was
The Cardinals compensatory pick received when Albert Pujols signed with the Angels.

Fozzy Bear masks are on the way to St. Louis.

Enjoy this.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8uY79zQeak

birtelcom
Editor
10 years ago

In the ongoing Beltran Post-Season Watch: There are at the moment 272 players in MLB history who have at least 100 career post-season PAs. Of those, the top three OPS numbers in the post-season are

C. Beltran 168 PAs, .464 OBP/.783 SLG/1.247 OPS
Babe Ruth 167 PAs, .467 OBP/,744 SLG/1.211 OPS
Lou Gehrig 150 PAs, .477 OBP/.731 SLG/1.208 OPS

birtelcom
Editor
10 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

But surely neither the Babe nor the Iron Horse would have would have let that ’06 Wainwright third strike go by.

I was walking in midtown Manhattan that night, returning home from a family event. I’d set the game to be recorded, and was heading home to watch, on time delay. But all of sudden I heard a huge, collective groan emanating from the various bars/pubs/saloons on the streets around me, which suggested that what I was going to see would not be pretty. A lot of those groaning masses will never forgive good old Carlos.

Voomo Zanzibar
Voomo Zanzibar
10 years ago
Reply to  birtelcom

__________

That hook was dripping with cheese,
and coming off a 6’7″ frame

I’d find a way to let it go
if I were a Metropolitan booster.

birtelcom
Editor
10 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

I agree 100%, JA, and have been arguing your point with Mets fans for years. But the irony that one of the greatest post-season hitters of all time has this place in post-season infamy for many Mets followers is still weirdly fascinating to me. That pitch does remain the last post-season pitch Mets fans have seen from their team. Of all the PAs in the five final-game-of a-post-season-series contests that the Mets franchise has lost, the negative 18% WPA from Beltran/Wainwright is the worst by a hitter (and it’s also worse than the negative 16% WPA from Kenny Rogers walking… Read more »

birtelcom
Editor
10 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Part of Beltran’s problem with Met fans I think has to do with the fact that he had an uncharacteristically poor season immediately following his big free agent signing by the Mets, and that first impression was never really fully overcome (despite the fact that he followed that up with just about the best all-around season by a Mets position player ever).

JasonZ
10 years ago

I was back and forth between Babe and Beltran on B-Ref after his homer to pass the Babe.

As Birtlecom points out above, their numbers across the board are crazy similar.

One difference is that Beltran is 11 for 11 in post season stolen bases.

The Babe was 4 of 7.

Babe .326/.467/.774

Carlos .355/.464/.783

Carlos did strikeout to end the 2006 NLCS.

But the Babe got caught stealing second to end the 1926 WS.

JasonZ
10 years ago

Anyone interested in Ruth’s failed stolen base attempt therefore ending the 1926 WS should read this…

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/07/29/by-the-numbers-judging-babe-ruth’s-attempted-steal-of-second-base-in-the-1926-world-series/

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
10 years ago
Reply to  JasonZ

It makes you wonder why Miller Huggins didn’t drop Meusel lower in the lineup behind Gehrig and Lazzeri.

JasonZ
10 years ago

I thought the same thing.

Maybe Huggins batted him in front of Gherig to offer protection, knowing he was slumping.

I need to check the lineup for games 1-5.

JasonZ
10 years ago

Meusel batted fourth every game.

Apparently, the Lou Gherig of 1926 was
Less of a hitter than Bob Meusel in the mind of Miller Huggins.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
10 years ago
Reply to  JasonZ

During the regular season Meusel batted 4th in only 4 games, less than in the WS. Gehrig batted 3rd most of the time with Ruth batting 4th. Meusel’s usual spot was 5th. For the WS Huggins dropped Gehrig behind Ruth and Meusel.

JasonZ
10 years ago

Now I am totally confused.

Thanks Richard.

Somewhere in contemporary accounts written prior to the WS is the answer as to why Huggins did this.

Help?!?!?

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
10 years ago
Reply to  JasonZ

On Aug. 31 the Yankees were in 1st place with a 79-49 record, 5.5 games ahead of the 2nd place Indians. From that point to season’s end they were a less than stellar 12-14. The Indians could only win 14 games during September so they didn’t quite catch the Yankees. A good reason for the Yankees tailspin were the slumps that Gehrig and Meusel suffered during the teams last 26 games. Gehrig batted .241 with 4 HR and 15 RBI, while Meusel batted .227 with 2 HR and 14 RBI. Perhaps Huggins thought that, for the WS, a lineup change… Read more »

Voomo Zanzibar
Voomo Zanzibar
10 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

“Benoit Balls”

He must have gotten strategy advice from Jack Morris today.

Jim Bouldin
Jim Bouldin
10 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Unbelievable Houdini move by the Max. When he loaded the bases with nobody out there in the 8th I thought it was hellooooo off-season. The guy has just come up huge in the post-season the last three years. What a rivalry this Tigers/A’s thing has become.

Oh, and neighbors contacted, claim verified 🙂

Doug
Doug
10 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

That post-season first was repeated only a few hours later by Xander Bogaerts of the Red Sox. Never happened in 109 years of post-season play. Then happens twice on the same day.

Bogaerts is the 4th youngest post-season pinch-hitter to not make an out, and the youngest to not make an out in 2+ PAs.

Doug
Editor
10 years ago

Tampa’s 9 pitchers used in a 9-inning game is a new post-season high, surpassing the 8 pitchers used by 4 other teams. Rk Date Series Gm# Tm Opp Rslt IP H R ER BB SO HR # 1 2002-10-05 NLDS 3 SFG ATL L 2-10 9.0 10 10 10 7 8 1 8 2 1996-10-05 ALDS 4 TEX NYY L 4-6 9.0 12 6 6 3 7 2 8 3 1967-10-11 WS 6 STL BOS L 4-8 8.0 12 8 8 2 2 4 8 4 1961-10-09 WS 5 CIN NYY L 5-13 9.0 15 13 11 6 6 2… Read more »