Quiz – Precocious Pitchers (solved)

The players in this quiz share a particular pitching accomplishment that no others have achieved since 1914. What is it?

  1. Don Sutton
  2. Gary Nolan
  3. Lowell Palmer
  4. Bert Blyleven
  5. Lynn McGlothen
  6. John Candelaria
  7. Al Leiter
  8. Bill Pulsipher
  9. Dontrelle Willis
  10. Noah Syndergaard

Congratulations to Dr. Doom! He identified that only these pitchers started each of the first 7 games of their careers before their 23rd birthdays while pitching 40 innings with 40 hits allowed and 40 strikeouts. More on the 40/40/40 group after the jump.

Noah Syndergaard is the most recent addition to this group, pitching his 7th big league game this past Monday when the Mets snapped Toronto’s 11-game win streak. Here are the career starts of our group.

Rk Player #Matching GS CG SHO IP H ER HR BB SO ▾ WHIP Tm
1 Gary Nolan 7 Ind. Games 7 2 1 49.2 40 13 4 11 53 1.03 CIN
2 Al Leiter 7 Ind. Games 7 0 0 42.2 40 22 5 21 51 1.43 NYY
3 Noah Syndergaard 7 Ind. Games 7 0 0 40.2 43 17 4 8 45 1.25 NYM
4 John Candelaria 7 Ind. Games 7 3 1 49.1 42 17 3 12 45 1.09 PIT
5 Don Sutton 7 Ind. Games 7 2 1 54.0 46 14 4 8 44 1.00 LAD
6 Dontrelle Willis 7 Ind. Games 7 0 0 42.2 44 15 3 16 43 1.41 FLA
7 Bert Blyleven 7 Ind. Games 7 1 0 45.1 40 12 4 10 43 1.10 MIN
8 Lowell Palmer 7 Ind. Games 7 1 1 45.2 53 28 4 19 42 1.58 PHI
9 Bill Pulsipher 7 Ind. Games 7 0 0 49.0 52 23 5 25 42 1.57 NYM
10 Lynn McGlothen 7 Ind. Games 7 2 1 54.1 47 16 1 10 42 1.05 BOS
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Generated 6/17/2015.

Since strikeouts have been steadily rising over the past 20 years, it is perhaps surprising that so many of the pitchers on the list are from the 1960s and 1970s. That is because those earlier pitchers tended to have longer starts than their more recent brethren and more IP (especially for pitchers this young), a trend illustrated above in that three of the four pitchers to do this since the 1980s all had fewer than 45 IP and the earlier pitchers all had more. Also, the more recent pitchers who do reach 40 IP over their first 7 starts tend to be the dominating types who are not allowing close to a hit every inning.

Career projection based on a player’s first 7 games is, of course, silly. That said, it’s perhaps encouraging for Noah Syndergaard that only two of his nine predecessors were washouts. Those two (Palmer and Pulsipher), though, like Syndergaard, both allowed more hits than IP, a ratio Syndergaard will likely need to improve for a successful career.

20 thoughts on “Quiz – Precocious Pitchers (solved)

  1. mosc

    Well at least we know it can’t be something that takes that long to do with Snydergaard on the list.

    A little early for a hint but do I have to know anything about Rookie eligibility to answer this question?

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  2. Joseph

    Given Syndergard’s inclusion, I am guessing that it has something to do with an accomplish that is something like, “only pitchers to do X in their first Y games.”

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    1. Doug Post author

      Reasonable deduction.

      Whatever he does the rest of his career, Syndergaard will always be in this group.

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  3. Voomo Zanzibar

    They all debuted before age 23.
    And they all had a start with no more than 1 earned run in their first 4 games.

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      1. Doug Post author

        Actually, P-I shows 573 pitchers with that accomplishment, including 167 with two such starts, but only one (Al Santorini) with such a start for two different teams.

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  4. Kahuna Tuna

    I thought maybe it was starting pitchers who, in one of their first 7 games, had a start where they gave up two or fewer hits and struck out 11 or more. I didn’t get the right results. But I was really tickled by one of the starters on that list.

    Mariano Rivera.

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  5. Dr. Doom

    Here’s my guess:

    1. Rookie eligibility
    2. Age-23 season (or younger)
    3. At least 42 K in first 7 starts
    4. At least 40 IP in first 7 starts
    5. Allowed at least 40 H in first 7 starts

    (Those last two criteria are because I was trying to figure out why Doc Gooden didn’t qualify for the list; I’m hoping I’m on the right track and it’s one or both of those!)

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    1. Doug Post author

      Bingo.

      These are the only pitchers to start each of their first 7 games, all before age 23, and records 40 Ks and 40 hits allowed in 40+ IP.

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      1. Dr. Doom

        HOLY COW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        I’ve NEVER gotten the answer to one of these quiz posts before! Considering the nearly-1300 posts I have on this website, you’d think I’d have gotten ONE… but no such luck.

        Really, the other guesses were really helpful. The only thing I had to figure out was that it wasn’t a single-game accomplishment. Once I had that, it kind of answered itself.

        I am curious, though: do you need BOTH the 40 IP AND the 40+ hits to yield this exact group, or would removing either of them change the collection of pitchers?

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        1. Doug Post author

          It’s all three (40 IP, 40 K, 40 H) to get these 10 pitchers out of the 264 pitchers since 1914 to start their first 7 games before turning 23.

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  6. mosc

    minor protest but Fernando had the following stats from his first 7 starts all in his age 20 rookie year:
    63IP, 40H, 61K

    He had just made 10 relief appearances and no starts the previous year but were not enough IP (17.2) to change his rookie status.

    Even when I do the work I get caught up in these things. Waaa. I did ask about rookie status!

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    1. Doug Post author

      The criteria was “started each of first 7 games”, so that’s why Valenzuela does not qualify.

      My response about rookie status was that it was implicit in the query, meaning it is not necessary to explicitly specify rookie status when searching but that, in all likelihood, only rookies would be selected when querying the results of the first 7 games of any player’s career.

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